June 18, 2009 2:53 PM
Clear Eyed Conservatism Translated Into English
Posted by Tom Tomorrow
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Clear-eyed conservatism translated into liberal and then translated into English. This is how we end up with "any attempt to judge people by the content of their character instead of the color of their skin" being defined as "racism" and "acknowledging that women are not smaller men with breasts" being translated into "sexism". Something of the truth (not to mention reality) was apparently lost in the translation process.
Keith,
Please take the time to practice the fairness and consideration that you demand from others. I've noticed other posts of yours have criticized Tom Tomorrow's cartoons for unfairly implicating all conservatives in the actions of a few. Here you criticize liberals by labeling them with unattributed statements. Are these actual quotes? If so, who made the statements? I am not aware of anyone who has made the equations as you have charged in your post.
If you want to be taken seriously, then you really need to provide some evidence to support such outrageous claims.
Actually, I've been much more specific than that the one time I took aim at the comic artist for generalization; I pointed out that he was representing an extreme minority of the pro-life movement as if it was the majority, calling it the "rightwingoverse".
I'm actually criticizing the way he "translated" the sentiments he represents by pointing out that they're actually how the liberals believe that conservatives think and THEN translated into normal-speak. I proceeded to point out that representing the liberal view of conservative thought as if it was the actual way conservatives think is how we get things that are clearly not racism or sexism being called racism and sexism. No, they are not actual quotes by specific people but rather a summery of the sentiment that is being mislabeled and this mislabeling is not being perpetuated by conservatives but, rather, their ideological foes. I'm not quite sure why you think that I need to prove that such criticism is being directed by one side of the ideological divide at its foe since there is no reason to doubt the target nor the origin. Unless, of course, you believe that it is conservatives who are labeling their own position as "racism" or "sexism"?
They're only outrageous if they're implausible.
The sad thing for me is that Tom Tomorrow is no longer funny. Time to hang it up, I think.
I don't see what the fuss is; conservatives haven't had control of the government, or even any real influence, for years.
The people claiming to be conservatives most certainly are not; I'm not sure what they are.
I agree that Tom is in error in agreeing with their claim that they are conservatives.
Indeed. Lamentable, isn't it?
Some of those claiming to be conservatives are more accurately labeled "moderates" but it's very easy to distinguish a real one from a false one. Simply look through their rhetoric for references to compromising or adopting an approach that is less offensive to the liberal side of the equation.
Well, those he's depicting as conservatives certainly aren't although he's also depicting a non-conservative argument as conservative and translating it counterintuitively. Error piles upon error... including the error that those who're ACTUALLY like this are anything but a tiny fringe.
No, the arguments/statements given by Tom are valid expressions, along with his translations. It can be argued that these are, indeed, the extreme even among 'neo-cons' (although given Rush Limbaugh's 13% support as spokesman the level of extremity is debatable).
It always requires drastic events (either real or created) to unite widely disparate opinions and people.
I'm not entirely sure what you mean by calling them "valid"; the translations certainly are nothing of the sort.
Heh... at the moment, Limbaugh certainly speaks more articulately for Republicans than any of their self-designated "leaders" although he more speaks for the base of the Republican party, the conservatives that give it its political strength.
Rush Limbaugh certainly does not speak for any conservatives that I consider worthy of the name. He's a hate-monger, pure and simple. A '100% American' who happens to hate 99% of the people who live here.
The Republicans have fallen on hard times if their chief spokesperson is a second-rate entertainer.
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